i did think he was saying to senator mccain and senator gramm, kemosabi and tonto, look, pick on someone your own size. there was an element of bullying going on here. is there more to it than that? susan rice's reputation precedes her. she is known as a very difficult, tough person, smart. she had trouble when she first went into the administration and was in competition with hillary clinton. i'm not so sure that the president will nominate her. >> if he does, will he succeed? >> the way he defended her was very odd. number one, why are you picking the woman, essentially. he was playing lancelot. >> not to me. >> there were women who wrote about this who said they were offended by that town. -- by his tone. it was a very misleading statements. that is undeniable. she talked about a demonstration, a riot out of control. there was no demonstration. and the fbi knew that two days earlier because it spoke with the people within the embassy and evacuate -- that it had evacuated and saved who said there was no demonstration and no right at. that is number one. but then he said, why are you pi